Comments on: Take that http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/ ...........................just noticing Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:14:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Nick http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-342 Nick Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:24:07 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-342 The danger arises when community is transformed into hierarchy and the roadmap become infallible dogma. The danger arises when community is transformed into hierarchy and the roadmap become infallible dogma.

]]> By: jack http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-341 jack Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:29:20 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-341 Every community of place and purpose is populated by some who love religion, some who ignore it, and some who despise it. The key to building a community, I think, is being myself without making anyone else wrong for being themselves; and the other way as well. It is still possible with differences to have common ground, and seeking selflessness is I hope one of the paths to that ground. Every community of place and purpose is populated by some who love religion, some who ignore it, and some who despise it. The key to building a community, I think, is being myself without making anyone else wrong for being themselves; and the other way as well.

It is still possible with differences to have common ground, and seeking selflessness is I hope one of the paths to that ground.

]]> By: garnet http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-340 garnet Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:03:56 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-340 That depends on who and what God is, and whether "he" is something you can "have a relationship" with. Baloney is very tasty, and may be the reason so many people think organized religion is the only spiritual food they need. That depends on who and what God is, and whether “he” is something you can “have a relationship” with.

Baloney is very tasty, and may be the reason so many people think organized religion is the only spiritual food they need.

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-339 John Ettorre Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:53:48 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-339 I think this is all so much baloney. It's easy and so very PC to say one is against religion, meaning the organized practice led by humans. That's fine. But do you have a relationship with god? That's the only thing that matters. I think this is all so much baloney. It’s easy and so very PC to say one is against religion, meaning the organized practice led by humans. That’s fine. But do you have a relationship with god? That’s the only thing that matters.

]]> By: christy lee-engel http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-338 christy lee-engel Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:06:45 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-338 Hi Jack, there was a session at the "Opening Space for the Practice of Peace" in 2003, convened by Rabbi Ted Falcon and called "How Faith Inhibits Peacemaking"--if you're intrigued you can read through the session notes here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/aph2x" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/aph2x</a> Hi Jack,

there was a session at the “Opening Space for the Practice of Peace” in 2003, convened by Rabbi Ted Falcon and called “How Faith Inhibits Peacemaking”–if you’re intrigued you can read through the session notes here: http://tinyurl.com/aph2x

]]> By: jack http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-337 jack Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:25:32 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-337 So one question that emerges is: Can people within a religion develop spirituality. Another: can religion be a barrier to spiritual development (as in, your observation about religion as political tool). These are interesting and important questions. So one question that emerges is: Can people within a religion develop spirituality. Another: can religion be a barrier to spiritual development (as in, your observation about religion as political tool). These are interesting and important questions.

]]> By: garnet http://www.jackzen.com/2005/09/18/take-that/comment-page-1/#comment-336 garnet Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:11:12 +0000 http://www.jackzen.com/?p=187#comment-336 Yes, religion has little to do with spiritual truth. Especially when it becomes a political tool. Yes, religion has little to do with spiritual truth. Especially when it becomes a political tool.

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